GENISTEIN/PSA

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04/05/2003 | 15:05 | מאת: Gubi

הי לכולם, אני מעביר כאן הודעה של VINCENT GAMMILL שקיבלתי היום בפורום אחר. ההודעה נוגעת למחקר עכשוי בנושא השפעות של הפיטואסטרוגן - GENISTEIN על PSA. למי שלא יודע, VINCENT GAMMILL הוא חוקר סרטן ידוע. הוא כרגע מועסק ע"י The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology הממוקם ב - Solana Beech California. זהו ארגון שלא למטרות רווח הממומן ע"י Parks Foundation. מדי פעם וינסנט משתתף בפורום, עונה על שאלות, תורם מהידע הרב שלו וכמובן עוזר רבות. ההודעה השנייה שאני מצרף היא הודעה נוספת של VINCENT GAMMILL בה הוא מתאר מעט את מרכז המחקר הנ"ל. אני מניח שכרגיל יהיה כנראה צורך לקרוא כל פסקה בסדר הפוך מתחילתה לסופה. הודעה ראשונה: [List, for those who choose to limit dietary soy, kudzu root is a sensible alternative. VG] __________________________________________________________________________ 05/02/03 - A dietary supplement containing the soy extract genistein reduced prostate-specific antigen (PSA) levels by as much as 61 per cent in a group of prostate cancer patients undergoing 'watchful waiting' for their disease, report University of California (UC) Davis Cancer Center researchers. The news comes at the same time as the UK's independent scientific Committee on Toxicity (COT) is urging the UK government to review its advice on the use of soya-based infant formulas, following a new report suggesting that there is a lack of evidence on phytoestrogens and health. Genistein is described as one of two compounds in soy that belong to a family of chemicals known as isoflavones. Isoflavones are phytoestrogens, plant-based chemicals that mimic the effects of estrogen in the body. The authors mention that genistein concentrated polysaccharide has been widely used as a complementary therapy for various cancers in Japan, Korea and other parts of Asia. Meanwhile PSA is a blood marker for prostate cancer. The researchers explain how an increase in PSA is a warning sign of prostate cancer, thus elevated PSA levels in men who have been treated for prostate cancer may signal a recurrence or progression of the disease. While effective in some, the dietary supplement did not have the same effect in men who had undergone surgery, radiation or hormone therapy for their prostate cancer. "This study must be interpreted cautiously because the numbers of men enrolled are small," emphasized Ralph deVere White, professor and chair of urology at UC Davis School of Medicine and Medical Center and director of the UC Davis Cancer Center. "However, the findings do stimulate us to do a larger, placebo-controlled trial in patients who are on watchful waiting." Watchful waiting is recommended for some men whose cancer is causing no symptoms, is expected to grow very slowly, and is small and contained within one area of the prostate. In the study, 62 men with biopsy-proven prostate cancer and elevated PSA levels were given 5 grams a day of genistein concentrated polysaccharide for six months. Sixteen of the men were on watchful waiting for their disease. The remaining 46 had undergone surgery, radiation or hormone therapy. Of those 46 men, one had no change in his PSA level during the study; the rest all had increases in PSA. Among the 16 men on watchful waiting, three stopped therapy due to diarrhea. Of the 13 who completed the study, eight saw a drop in their PSA level, with the decreases in PSA ranging from 3 per cent to 61 per cent. In total five of the 13 watchful waiting patients who completed the study, or 38 per cent, had increased PSA levels over the course of the study, compared with 98 per cent of the men with treated prostate cancer. "Patients on watchful waiting may do better due to grade of disease or distribution and concentration of genistein within the prostate," the study authors suggest, adding that "further research is needed to determine this". The UC Davis study was supported by genistein supplement manufacturer Amino Up Chemical of Sapporo, Japan, and was reported on 30 May at the 2003 meeting of the American Urological Association meeting in the US. הודעה שנייה: The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology (CSNO) is located in Solana Beach, California. It is a 501 (C)3 non profit that was founded with the assistance of the Parks Foundation. We research EVERY type of cancer treatment to determine what really works. We are independent of pharmaceutical corporations, government, nutritional supplement manufacturers, etc. Likewise we are not manacled by adherence to any philosophy of healing, any religion, or any theory. It is our working premise that nothing in cancer treatment has been adequately proven as the waters have always been muddied by economics, politics, egos, greed. It is our further premise that there are probably many effective treatments for cancer. The job then becomes one of sorting through mountains of information from everywhere -- conventional, investigational, traditional, herbal, nutritional, cultural, psychological, historical, overlooked journals, international patents -- to simply find out what works and all the hows and whys. We also network with international integrative cancer clinics and do our own investigational lab work in support of our efforts. The one thing that every cancer patients has to do is make smart decisions in a timely manner. This can be overwhelming when everyone wants to sell something, convince one of the merits of a particular therapy, or impose a "standard of care" therapy. Any of these might be good choices -- or might be disasters. We weigh the accuracy of all available information about every type of potential treatment. Unfortunately we can't help as many people as we like due to a variety of real-world constraints, (e.g., understaffing, needed lab equipment) but perhaps it is better to grow in a measured way. Vincent [email protected] [email protected]

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04/05/2003 | 15:12 | מאת: Gubi

04/05/2003 | 19:24 | מאת: ד"ר יוסף אריאלי

gubi שלום חמרים אלו נמצאים בפרוסייף כידוע לך ( + לויקופן). תוסף מזון זה יעיל גם לחולים הסובלים מ- BPH , גם יש עדויות שהוא יכול למנוע סרטן הערמונית , וגם ניתן לחולים בסרטן הערמונית בכל שלביו, ללא קשר לטיפולים שקיבלו , היות שהוא מסוגל לעצור את התקדמות המחלה לשלבים היותר מתקדמים שלה. ד"ר אריאלי

04/05/2003 | 19:58 | מאת: Gubi

דר' אריאלי, אני לא מטיל בכך ספק. אני פשוט לא מכיר את המוצר הספציפי הזה. כן מכיר מוצרים אחרים מקבילים. אשמח לדעת עליו יותר. אגב, האם הוא מגובה במחקר? עשיתי חפוש בגוגול ל: PROSAFE+CANCER ועליתי למעשה על אתר אחד, של המשווק בחול כנראה: http://www.alterna-danor.com/prosafe.asp מדובר שם באופן כללי על מחקרים על הקשר בין ISOFLAVONES ו - LYCOPEN ובעיות ערמונית כולל סרטן. מה שלא הצלחתי למצוא זה מחקרים שנעשו ספציפית עם פרוסייף עצמו. אשמח אם תדריך אותי איך להגיע לעוד מידע לגבי המוצר. תודה, גובי

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